Scottsdale IPSSA Chapter

President

Meeting called to order at 7:04 at Home & Garden Expo Center by Mike Ryno.

Vendor Report

• Heliocol – Mark Walters
• Pentair/Starite – Jonathan Allison
• GPS – Chuck Schock
• Blake Sales Associates – Dwayne May
• Hayward – Jerry Cavalluzi
• PoolCorp – Mike Long
• EXS – Thurane Khin
• L&L Lines – David Walter
• PWP – Dan Hurley
• PoolCorp – Brett Elworthy

Speaker: No speaker

Recess for Vendor information – 7:20-7:30

Meeting called back to order at 7:30

Roll call was taken.

Minutes were read and approved.

Treasury report: Started with $7387.74 and ending balance of $7651.74

Intro of Guests

• Mike Martucci – 3 ABC Poolservice
• Jeff Maurer – 3 Enchanted Forest
• Ruslyn Pettijohn – son of Steve Pettijohn
• Nick Sellern – 3 Aqua Del Sol
• Mr. Reader – 1 – Morgan Reader’s father of Poseidon Pool
• Ryan Baker – 3 Baker Pool Repair

Announcement

For all Potential members:

1. at second meeting fill out IPSSA form, purchase study book if need to;
2. take online Water Chemistry test;
3. before 3^rd meeting meet with new member committee;
4. Pay upfront costs;

There will be a possible change in attendance requirement for potential new members to 3 out of 4 consecutive meetings. Currently you are required to attend 3 consecutive meetings and it is your responsibility to let the secretary know you are in attendance.

New Members

Voted on Nick Stellern-unanimously voted in

Voted on Jeff Maurer-unanimous voted in

Discussion on Duel Membership - Currently you are required to pay full IPSSA dues to have duel membership but you are currently required to attend only one chapter meeting per month. Ryno discussed the possibility of changing the fee to requiring only chapter dues to be paid for duel membership. The discussion that followed was related to what a chapter gains in duel membership and what it loses. The lack of required attendance and familiarity with that member was a problem for many members. The discussion was postponed when chapter realized no one was interested currently in duel membership.

Presidents Announcements

1. Region 8 is having its Regional meeting in September in Las Vegas.
2. The electrical code changes reported last month had gone into effect but were causing other cities to rethink implementation because of some current problems with the GFI change.

Good of Order

Dennis Wah passed out a handout on salt conversion chart and CYA chart to help us know the correct amount of salt and CYA to add to pools. A correctly operating salt cell should be using between 6-8 amps and putting out 24v or more. To adjust the cell output of an EZ Touch unit with a control panel for more than one day requires adjustment at the panel not at the unit. Steve Pettijohn will be in charge of Good of the Order next month.

Ron Orson asked if our chapter might have someone come in and help membership understand maintenance/troubleshooting for SVSR systems.

Old Business

Sick Route Coverage changes. PJ Staun motioned to vote on all changes that had been noted and available for the last month. Steve Lawrie seconded. Kurt Schuster reminded the chapter that the change included only CPO certified members would be able to take care of commercial pools and they would be reimbursed 50% of the monthly labor costs. Apartment pools are considered commercial pools. Motion was passed.

New Business

Check out of The Millionaire Poolman book would be handled by Al Paciora. When you turn in the book you must turn it into him and when you check the book out you must sign it out through him. Tom Brown and Pam Seufert were given the book for this month. We believe Josh Wiles has the 3^rd book.

Attendance Raffle – Cliff Orson won the raffle this month, which was a gift from Tom Brown of 2 Diamondack Tickets.

A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 PM

ABSENT: Members absent for the July meeting were C Conway-2, Bill Gallen-5,

D. Holthusen-2, B. Moore-1, D. Straus-2, J. Sweeney-3, J. Wiles-1,

B. Mellor-2, M Barclay-1

President – Meeting called to order at 7:01 at Home & Garden Expo Center by Mike Ryno.

Vendor Report

• Thornberg Enterprises – Tracy Thornberg
• Raypak – Adam Modzelewski
• Suntrek – Bill Conners
• Heliocol – Mark Walters
• GPS – Chuck Schock
• SR3 – Alan Chilton
• Orenda – Harold Evans
• Blake Sales Associates – Dwayne May
• DCA – Marathon Motors – Ken Eiseler
• PWP – Dan Hurley
• PoolCorp – Mike Long
• AZ Pool Routes – Pam Seufert
• Pentair/Starite – Jonathan Allison
• Bob Jones Sales – Mark Pieri

Speaker: EXS – Thurane Khin

Mr. Khin presented information on understanding all services/fees that are provided by a credit service company. Mr. Khin suggested that if you do credit card service you should have more than $1500/month in credit card billings to be cost effective and costs for credit card services are around 25 cents per transaction and 2.3 percent of sale.

Kurt Schuster than reported that the next meeting will be at the same location but in the upstairs room.

Recess for Vendor information – 7:40-7:50

Meeting called back to order at 7:50

Roll call was taken.

Minutes were read and approved.

Treasury report: Started with $7329.80 and ending balance of $7166.21.

Presidents Announcements

1. It is important to have MSDS’ for chemicals that you carry on your truck or site. The president is trying to make these available on the web site. They are available at manufacturer’s web site and at distributors.
2. The electrical code in Phoenix and Tempe is changing to require GFI breakers for all new install motors and blowers.
3. Good of the Order: Bill Moore discussed problems with discovering if you have plugged lines or poor suction problems. A drain jet is useful. To discover if have a plugged line try sending a ping pong ball through skimmer. A sump pump can be used to force large amounts of water through the plugged line to blow line clean.

Unfinished Business

Morgan Reader and Paul Motyka were loaned Millionaire Book for June/July.

Guests Introduced

• Johnathan Sweeney – son of Joseph Sweeney
• Ryan Baker – Baker Pool Repair (2), 602.481.8873, bakerpoolrepair.com
• Mike Martucci – ABC poolservice (2), 480.348.2221, martuccimike@yahoo.com
• Jeff Mauerer – Enchanted Forest (2)

Currently to become member requires attending 3 consecutive chapter meetings. Potential member must contact President to set up interview, H2O chemistry test, and pay fees to be voted in as member.

Old Business

Sick Route Committee Report – All service persons that had problems with there sick route coverage pools have been talked to. The sick route committee has decided not to fine or suspend anyone because of problems with communication between Sick Route Chairman/Downed member/and member covering pool. A reminder is made to the chapter; Failure to cover pools in a professional manner can lead to fines, suspension, and/or removal from the chapter. The committee has gone over the chapter sick route coverage rules and made some changes to address the issues that have come up. The problems addressed were 1) does the member have to take care of the pool him/herself, 2) commercial pools often require more time than regular pools and special certification, 3) what is an average pool stop, 4) communication between Downed member, Sick Route Chair, and member covering pool. All the changes were read to members. There was concern about who is required to take care of pool and also the time required for SRC. Because so many changes were made it was suggested that everyone needed to receive a copy of the changes and study them. At the next chapter meeting we will continue our discussion on chapter sick route changes.

New Business

1. Kurt Schuster wanted our chapters input about a chapter member in Anderson, Nevada and attendance. The chapter felt he should be given slack.
2. Bob Heywood reported that a service man he knew had died and he is trying to help the widow by helping her get rid of 47 pools. If anyone is interested contact him.
3. Arrow insurance is offering to provide IPSSA with a death & disability term policy at an additional cost of $3.40/ month. After a brief discussion our chapter voted to tell IPSSA we would accept this new coverage, 20 for and 6 against.
4. Don Holthusen asked how fines and problems with chapter members get handled.
5. Kurt Schuster reported that he had found someone who is able to supply tabs at $1.50/ pound and he would keep our chapter informed on availability and quality.

Attendance Raffle – David Strauss of Ostrich Pool Service won the raffle.

A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:04 PM

ABSENT: Members absent for the March meeting were K. Davis-2, Bill Gallen-4
C. Jessen-1, C. Orson-2

President – Meeting called to order at 7:01 at Home & Garden Expo Center by Mike Ryno.

Vendor Report

• Suntrek-Bill Conners
• Pentair/Starite-Jonathan Allison
• Cartridge Depot-Steve Tillotson
• EXS-Thurane Khin
• PWP-Dan Hurley
• Heliocol-Mark Walters
• Advanced Leak Detection-Steve De Wolfe

Speaker: PoolCorp – Mike Long & Bob Jones Sales – Mark Pieri

Presented information on electrical parts that will now be available at SCP & SPP at competitive cost and in stock.

Recess for Vendor information- 7:35-7:45

Meeting called back to order at 7:45

Roll call was taken.

Minutes were read and approved.

Treasury report: Started $8234.58 and ending balance of $7329.80.

Presidents Announcements

1. The CPO course had 25 members from Region 8 take the class. Checks for all who went to the class and passed were passed out.
2. DPSS had meeting in May and if you know any specialty vendors who might be interested in participating in the table top let Mike Ryno know.
3. Good of the Order: Bill Moore discussed problems with multiple lights in a pool. It is best to mark the lights in the box for future work. Also, a quick way to get a line shot through conduit is to shoot some construction twine through conduit by water pressure.

Committee Report

Sick Route-Kyle Veatch thanked all the members who serviced his pools. Chemicals were provided for anyone seeking reimbursement. Some problems occurred in operating sick route coverage so a committee was chosen, Dan Easterly, Kurt Schuster, and PJ Staun. They were asked to address the problem of commercial pools and how to allocate ones that took a large amount of time.

Guests Introduced

• Nick Stellern-Aqua Del Sol (2), 602.866.1526, nick@aquadelsol.com
• Christine Myer-Pristine Pools (1), 480.208.4972, pristineyourpool@gmail.com
• Ryan Baker-Baker Pool Repair (1), 602.481.8873, bakerpoolrepair.com
• Steve De Wolfe-Advanced Leak (1), 480.228.6981, sdewolfe@cox.net
• Paul Grogger-Carefree Pool & Spa (1), 480.595.7665, p_grogger@msn.com
• Mike Martucci-ABC poolservice (1), 480.348.2221, martuccimike@yahoo.com
• Jeff Mauerer-Enchanted Forest

Currently to become member requires attending 3 consecutive chapter meetings.

Community Outreach

1. IPSSA has water watching stuff available by phoning or emailing IPSSA.
2. Looking into an ad in paper that will ask if your pool service person is IPSSA certified.

Old Business

Josh Wiles was allowed to keep his copy of The Millionaire Book and Matt Barclay also was given a copy for this month.

New Business

1. Mike Ryno notified chapter that meeting place site would only allow food if they catered it. He will be talking to them about this.
2. There will probably be no vendors during July and August to allow us to get out of meetings faster.
3. Kurt Schuster reported on the most recent BORD meeting.
   1. a right of appeal for any new member who is not accepted by the chapter s/ he isattempting to enter.
   2. the new member requirement for 3 consecutive meeting attendance is being changed to 3 out of 4 meetings and being sent to members to vote on.
   3. a new manual is now available on equipment repair. It costs $27. PJ Staun moved that our chapter purchase 6 and allow members to look at it to determine if valuable for them. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously.
   4. IPSSA will be enforcing requirement that chapters turn in treasure report in timely manner. The fine will be $50 plus $2 for every day late Our chapter has not had a problem with turning in this report on time.
   5. The new sick route software will not be offered by IPSSA itself but is available to any chapter that desires it. Our chapter will wait to see if price will come down and if useful.
   6. There has been some reported fraud by people taking the H2O chemistry test so it is being more carefully monitored.
   7. The new insurance addition (death & disability term policy) is still being advised on and chapters should be getting more info in next few months. The cost will be about $3.40/ month.
   8. They also reported on the NPC test pools.
4. Dan Easterly reported on his most recent insurance claim.
5. David Knight reported on a problem with Enviro Swim not getting promised referral fee to him and problems with equipment not working properly and not returning calls. Members advised of proper maintenance and if additional problems for David Knight to contact them to see if they might have better phone response.
6. PJ Staun reported on his need for a repairman.

Attendance Raffle – David Knight of White Knight pool service won the attendance raffle.

A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:42 PM

ABSENT: Members absent for the March meeting were Bill Gallen-3 Al Paciora-2, D Straus-1, J Sweeney-2, B Mellor-1

President – Meeting called to order at 7:00 at Home & Garden Expo Center by Mike Ryno.

Vendor Report

• SCP – Scott Schultz
• SPP – Brett Elworthy
• Zodiac – Bob Sadler
• EXS – Thurane Khin
• Pentair/Starite – Jonathan Allison
• PWP – Dan Hurley
• PoolCorp – Mike Long
• AZ Pool Routes – Pam Seufert
• Erbyart.com – Roger Erby

Speaker: Due to a mix up two solar heater companies presented info.

Heliocol – Mark Walters

Suntrek – Roy Heine & Bill Conners

Recess for Vendor information – 8:00-8:10

Meeting called back to order at 8:10

Roll call was taken.

Minutes were read and approved.

Treasury report: Started with $7198.84 from last month and today it is $8234.58. The Enviro-Swim unit was sold to Dayna Evans for $1500 this month.

Guests Introduced

• Gary Schlesser
• Morgan Reader and father Mr. Reader of Poseidon Pool 480.560.6735 pools.poseidon@gmail.com

New Member Vote – Morgan Reader has attended 3 meetings. She has passed the water chemistry test. She has been in business for over one year and has 61 pools in North Scottsdale. Motion was made to accept Morgan Reader and PJ Staun seconded and passed unanimously.

Presidents Announcements

1. Friday and Saturday the CPO course will be given for IPSSA members of Region 8. It will be held at SPP Mesa from 8-5 both days.
2. Kurt Schuster reported on the BORD meeting. Region 8 is trying to get IPPSA to change new member meeting requirement from 3 consecutive meetings to 3 out of 4 meetings. Region 8 is also attempting to get IPSSA to reimburse the CPO class Region 8 is providing for its members.
3. DPSS has obtained Gary Martin’s help as a paid assistant to develop the DPSS and to generate more vendor and retail support. A flyer is being developed to begin advertising for the show with dates. The next meeting of the DPSS will be in early May.
4. Sick Route Coverage-Kyle Veatch will probably be able to return at the beginning of May. Remember when the turnover occurs to return keys to SCP. A question arose on how to deal with commercial pools and large specialty pools that require much more time than a typical residential pool. The president asked for time for Board and members to think of possible solutions.
5. At the next meeting Kyle Veatch will have chemicals available for any member who needs reimbursement.
6. Good of the Order: Bill Moore reminded all members of the safety value of having time clock safety covers available to replace whenever a pool has one missing.
7. The chapter directory is still not available. The vendor who is printing it is asking for additional money. Kurt Schuster is trying to work this problem out.
8. Our chapter is seeking organizations that members might know of who our chapter could support as a community outreach. Don Holthusen mentioned Room for Joy an organization he is helping. Any other members who know of organizations our chapter might be able to help support should let the chapter know so we can determine who and how we can help them.

Old Business

The Millionaire book was passed on to Josh Wiles and Javier from Diamond Look.

New Business

Kurt Schuster asked for our chapter to discuss the necessity of guest speakers at meetings. The reasons mentioned for keeping guest speakers were 1) they provide food for meetings, 2) some members main value is to hear the speakers and vendors, 3) to develop personal relationships with vendors thus gaining more attention when have difficulty/questions concerning product and, 4) the vendors are helping members develop scripts to sell product. A point was made that the main problem was not having vendors and guest speakers but the need to control/guide/coach the speakers and vendors before the meeting.

Attendance Raffle - Don Holthusen of SwimRite won the attendance raffle.

A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:54 PM

ABSENT: Members absent for the March meeting were B Fletcher-1, Bill Gallen-2 S. Lawrie-1, D Pekera-2, K Veatch-excused, B Mellor-1

Pre Meeting; Food provided by David Fraijo of Deck Services

President – Meeting called to order at 7:03 at Home & Garden Expo Center by Mike Ryno.

Vendor Report

• Blake Sales – Dwayne May
• PoolCorp – Mike Long SCPNorth Branch manager is now Scott Schultz
• PWP – Dan Hurley
• Sales Link – Randy Johnson
• GPS – Chuck Schoch
• Bob Jones – Mark Pieri
• Pentair/Starite – Manny Acino
• SPP – Brett Elworthy
• Armor-Deck – Greg Hutchens
• Thornberg Enterprise – Tracy Thornberg w/ Aladdin President Jack McKissock
• Heliocol – Mark Walters
• SR3 Scale Remover – Alan Chilton

Speaker: Deck Services – David Fraijo presented information about his companies acrylic modified Kooldeck. Contact info is www.deckservices.net or 602.956.2923

Recess for Vendor information- 7:34-7:44

Meeting called back to order at 7:44

Roll call was taken.

Minutes were read and approved.

No treasury report because treasurer was absent but balance reported of $7160.93.

Guests Introduced

• Johnathan Sweeney
• Morgan Reader of Poseidon Pool 480.560.6735 pools.poseidon@gmail.com
• Matt Barclay of Blue Moose Pool Care 602.703.0777 mbarclay7@yahoo.com
• Nick Stellern of Aqua Del Sol 602.866.1526

New Member Vote - Matt Barclay has attended 3 meetings. He has been in business for one year and mentored by Bill Moore. Most of his pools on in west and northwest side and he understands our sick route boundaries. Kurt Schuster motioned to accept and PJ Staun seconded. Passed unanimously.

Presidents Announcements

1. DPSS director for 2010 will be Mark Cyr with Bill Goosen as Co-Director.
2. Region 8 is offering to pay for a CPO class, April 24-25. Limited space and requires a $100 deposit which will be returned if member attends and passes test.
3. DPSS has given our chapter $1000 for its help during 2009 show and is returning seminar money to any member that paid.
4. IPSSA has new training books on equipment available.
5. There is a swap meet at SCP on 2.28.09 offered by APSP and SCP.
6. Region 8 donated funds to John Gwaitkin of SPP who has been diagnosed with skin cancer. This is a reminder that each of us should get our skin checked annually and take appropriate clothing and skin care.
7. Bill Moore motioned to have Scottsdale chapter donate $500 to Gwaitkin fund. Motion was seconded by PJ Staun and passed unanimously.
8. Region 8 has applied for $2500 from IPSSA to fund an effort to limit Maricopa County from requiring C-6 license for drain change for commercial pools to meet VGBA requirements. Region 8 will look into finding lobbyist to watch for bad laws and rules being implemented by governmental authorities.

New Business

Ron Orson asked when the chapter directory will become available The directory             was promised for the next meeting.

Josh Wiles raised a question about a water purification system and its effect on  increased metals (Cu and Ag) in water and that effect on plaster staining.

Josh Wiles let chapter know that a service company was offering chemical service  for $10 per week. The company installs a salt system and requires a contract.

Attendance Raffle – Kurt Schuster of Badger pools won the attendance raffle. A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:31 PM

ABSENT: Members absent for the March meeting were K Davis-1, Bill Gallen-1, Don Holthusen-1, David Knight-1,Keith Wallace-1

Pre Meeting; Food provided by Kyle Veatch in appreciation for sick route coverage

President

Meeting called to order at 7:03 at Home & Garden Expo Center by Kurt Schuster standing in for Mike Ryno not present at this meeting.

Vendor Report

Aqua Azul Tate-Wilford
Pool RX -Derek Nellmapius/Tim Beans
Armor-Deck-Greg Hutchens
GPS-Chuck Schoch
Pentair/Starite-Manny Acino
PoolCorp Building Materials-Gary Boyd
Scale Remover-Alan Chilton
AZ Pool Routes-Pam Seufert
Hayward-Jerry Cavalluzzi
Blake Sales-Dwayne May

Speaker:

VGBA information from Mike Long of SCP/APSP
Two important things to remember: 1) all drain covers manufactured after 12.20.08 must be approved drain covers and all public pools are required to have changed their drain cover by that date and 2) any public (a pool with more than single family use) pool with a single drain or double drain with less than 36” separation requires an SVRS.

Two problems occurring: 1) Maricopa county is requiring a permit to be pulled for public pool drain change and are requiring only commercial contractor licensed repairpersons to be able to pull that permit; and 2) Fountain Hills and Paradise Valley are requiring SVSR on every suction line whether public, residential or water feature.

David Straus informed the chapter that he and his wife were seeking to adopt another child and if any of us had information on a potential available child to let him know.

Recess for Vendor information- 7:49-7:59

Meeting called back to order at 7:59

Roll call was taken.

Members absent for the February meeting were C.Conway, K Davis, D. Easterly,S. Lawrie, D. Pekera, J. Sweeney, and K. Veatch.

No minutes were read but they will be available on the website.
No treasury report because treasurer absent.

Guests Introduced

Rustlyn Pettijohn
Jeff Mavrer-from Flagstaff 928.699.6830 jfrymaver@gmail.com
Dick Reader and
Morgan Reader of Poseidon Pool 480.560.6735 pools.poseidon@gmail.com
Ben Mellor of Clean Brite Pools 480.907.4236 clearbritepools@yahoo.com
Matt Barclay of Blue Moose Pool Care 602.703.0777 mbarclay7@yahoo.com
Greg Howard of Pleasant Valley Pools 623.478.2726

Presidents Announcements (Kurt Schuster shared this)

1. Florida has become the 11th IPSSA region, Texas has 2 new chapters and California has 1 new chapter.
2. IPSSA has become involved in determining if the Energy Commissions’ ruling on 2 speed motors is actually energy efficient and what factors make them more energy efficient than current pumps.
3. IPSSA workbooks are now available with the IPSSA manuals.
4. IPSSA is becoming involved in certification requirements for service technicians.
5. There is a swap meet at SCP on 2.28.09 offered by APSP and SCP.
6. A sick route computer program is almost available that will require members to enter the information concerning their pools and this info will become available to the sick route chair to more easily pass out pools.
7. Kurt discussed insurance claims and reminded the chapter that our insurance includes VGBA problems and hazmat spills unlike other pool service organizations.

Good of the Order

Bill Moore reported on a new device designed to unplug impellers and a few members had used it with success.

Committee Report

New Members- Ben Mellor has met the requirements to become a member. He has been in the business for 6 years and is currently doing some work for Bill Moore. He has ~30 accounts and has passed the water chemistry test. Don Holthusen made a motion to accept Ben Mellor as a member and Bob Heywood seconded. The vote was unanimous.

Old Business

The Millionaire Pool Man book was passed on to Ron Orson and Keith Wallace.

New Business

Kurt Schuster advised the chapter that an AD&D policy was being considered by IPSSA at a cost of an additional $2.05/ month. At the next chapter meeting we will discuss this.

Someone has reported that we do not meet in December and our chapter needs to discuss how the December meeting will look because we are required to have a monthly meeting.

Dan Jonaitis made a motion to excuse Kyle Veatch from the January and February meeting of 2009 because of his accident. Bob Heywood seconded and the motion passed.

A discussion on allowing those using sick route to be excused from chapter meeting was deferred to committee. Also, a caution was made about servicing sick routes. Do not solicit business or make repairs without informing the downed member, if possible, of the situation.

Attendance Raffle-no raffle because treasurer not present

A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:36 PM

ABSENT:

• Courtney Conway-2
• Dan Easterly-2
• Clifton Orson-1
• Al Paciora-1
• Dave Pekera-2
• Mike Ryno-1
• Joseph Sweeney-2
• Kyle Veatch (excused sick route)

Pre Meeting; Food provided by our chapter from Carabbas

President – Meeting called to order at 7:01 at La Quinta Inn, Shea and 101

A 6 page handout was passed out.

Vendor Report - In place of only vendor reports, all in attendance were asked to state name and company they represented and describe the effect the economy was having on their business. Vendors who were present included;

• Bob Jones Associates – Mark Pieri
• SCP – Mike Long
• GPS – Chuck Schoch
• AZ Pool Routes – Pam Seufert
• Heliocol – Mark Walters

Secretary Report

Attendance was taken.

Minutes of previous meeting read and accepted as read.

Treasury

• Starting Balance – $8062.95
• Inflow – 230.00
• Expenses  – 1094.11
• Ending Balance – $7198.84

Guests Introduced

• Sharon Moore – representing husband Bill Moore
• Ben Mellar – The Royal Pool Service
• Stena Johnson – friend of Keith Wallace

Presidents Announcements

1. IPSSA is working on getting Florida to become a new IPSSA region and this should be occurring soon.
2. A handout from IPSSA which is also available on the IPSSA website is available for informing customers about the Virginia Graeme Baker Pool Act.
3. A change in corporate standing rules related to when a new member becomes officially covered. New Members become covered the 1^st of the month after the check from the chapter is received. A special thanks to Ray Arouesty for averting a financial cost due to a problem with the previous standing rule and another chapter’s paperwork.
4. Kurt Schuster gave a quick review of the differences between the insurance polices of IPSSA, UPA and ASAPP. This is recorded on handout passed out at meeting. IPSSA has equal or better coverage in every area covered. Remember IPSSA coverage is for service and repair work and not major remodeling/contracting jobs. Arrow Insurance does have policies to cover that kind of work, also.
5. Kurt discussed insurance claims and included a handout of recent claims. and Al Paciora share his insurance claim. Also the chapter was reminded everyone to keep thorough logs in the event of future problems, they can often be used as evidence of professional care.
6. Remember you have the chance to use IPSSA scholarship fund for continuing education and a handout of last year disbursements of scholarship fund was made available.
7. The Scottsdale meeting site will probably be changing to the Scottsdale Rd. and Thunderbird area at a vendors meeting room and be on the 3^rd Monday of each month. More information will be available as it becomes available.
8. A new website for our chapter is up and running. It is www.ScottsdaleIPSSA.com. It will have the future meeting place map. Remember there is no December meeting and the January meeting is attendance at the Desert Pool and Spa Show, http://dps-show.com.

Old Business

Sharon Moore moved to move the chapter meeting time to 6 PM for 2009. Bill Gallen seconded and a discussion ensued. A major concern was the loss of work time during the summer months. The vote was taken, 10 in favor and 11 against. The motion failed.

The list for new officers was finalized. Al Paciora will run for Vice President, allowing Steve Pettyjohn to run for Treasurer and Mike Ryno to run for President. Brian Stegall will remain as secretary. The vote for President, Vice-President and Treasure was taken and each officer passed unanimously.

New Business

The proposed budget was discussed. It was noted that our overall budget increased even with the loss of several members.

A motion was made by Don Holthusen to increase the Contractors License award from $100 to $200 to encourage more members to get their contractors license. It was seconded and passed 21 to 1.

A motion was made to pay EnviroSwim’s Desert Pool and Spa show table fee of up to $500 if they fulfill their 2009 offer of IPSSA Scottsdale using there meeting place of all chapter meetings. Motion was made, seconded and passed 20 to 2.

Don Holthusen moved to allow a 2009 budget item of $500 for a ‘to be decided upon future local charity.’ It was seconded and passed unanimously.

A motion was made and seconded to accept the 2009 budget. The motion was passed unanimously.

Committee reports – there were no committee reports.

Attendance Raffle – Joseph Sweeney of Captain Morgan’s Pool Service won the raffle.

Kurt Schuster was thanked for his service as President. He will become the Region 8 BORD representative.

A motion was made, seconded and passed to adjourn the meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:09 PM

ABSENT: Tom Brown-1, Bob Heywood-3, Carl Jessen-3, David Knight-2, Mike Lawrie-3, Clifton Orson-2, PJ Staun-3

Members who have missed no meetings for 2008: Dan Jonaitis, Ron Orson, Mike Ryno, Kurt Schuster, Dennis Wah.

Members who have missed more than 3 meetings for 2008: Dan Easterly, Joseph Sweeney.